I always was a little weirded out by all the Armageddon imagery. In the MBOBS, as I rememeber they had all these horses with men mounted on them with swords drawn coming out of the red clouds. Jesus was wearing a crown and ready to do some serious damage. I was always reminded that I needed to keep my field service hours up to avoid being on the ass-end of those swords. The WT had even worse depictions of the big A. There were skyscrapers and churches crumbling in the background while people were getting killed by stones and fire coming out of the sky. Sodom and Gomorrah were always depicted the same sadistic way, albeit minus the modern setting. Come to think of it, I don't think the Society has ever depicted the scene of the men beegint o have sex with the angels at lot's place. Guess their artists wouldn't know where to start with trying to draw aggressively gay men in ancient Hebrew garb.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
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What are the worst pictures in My Book of Bible Stories?
by cedars ina few comments from muddy waters and mummatron on another thread peaked my curiosity and led me to revisit some of the illustrations in the my book of bible stories.
i don't appear to have my old copy from when i was a child (thankfully), so i checked out the images over on watchtower.org where the entire book can be read online.
the images below are taken from what is displayed on that website, although it wouldn't surprise me if there are equally awful images that haven't been used.. so which of the images below are the most grotesque and inappropriate for children?
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I have to start following the british royals...
by Aussie Oz inand start buying the trash mags!.
seriously...these people drive my customers, and that drive makes them buy from me!.
so as a hat block maker i have to always know what these people and the stars are wearing on their heads because milliners all over will want to make copies.. not spamming ya... just think its really funny that a middle aged guy has to follow the fashion setter royals!.
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Personally, I have never understood the fascination with the usurping House of Hanover that continues to this day. They have no real power and are just symbolic heads of state. Elizabeth II isn't the problem. She's actually the monarchy's best asset since Victoria. The real problem will come with the advent of Charles III. The guy has a few screws loose. But what can you expect from a man whose sole purpose in life is to wait until his Mum dies? I see the same kind of shit in my own country with the whole Cult of Kennedy. I can't even believe that there is not a single Kennedy in elected office at this moment. Oh well. If the fine citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland want their monarchy, they are certainly entitled to it. insh'allah
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True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)
by charlie brown jr. inlistening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.
the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.
lmao!!!.
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Splendid. I hope David Gilmour continues to entertain you under his proper given name than as "Pink Floyd".
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True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)
by charlie brown jr. inlistening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.
the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.
lmao!!!.
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That's true according to Nick Mason's book. He wrote some stuff, but they rejected it as not sounding a thing like Floyd. Nick Mason couldn't even drum anymore and they used the drum machine on most tracks, while Rick Wright was brought into the process too late for him to even do much. So it was basically David Gilmour and a bunch of session musicians who were trying desperately to mimic the Pink Floyd sound. And it worked for the most part since people knew the Pink Floyd name, and not the individual members of the band. They could have had four stand-ins and they would have sold both albums and tickets. As Roger Waters put it, "I'm competing against myself and losing". Just a really bad period for any real Pink Floyd fans. Newbies and posers couldn't taste the difference between Coke and Diet Coke.
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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS
by strymeckirules inwhat saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
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I got so sick of the mindless repetition of the name "Jehovah". I still cringe whenever I hear that name.
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True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)
by charlie brown jr. inlistening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.
the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.
lmao!!!.
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I don't mean to keep dumping on Gilmour, but what he did with the band still irritates me. For those not too familiar with the inner workings of Pink Floyd, let me offer you an analogy:
Imagine if Paul McCartney, in the mid-70's, took Wings, added Ringo as the drummer, and released two albums as "The Beatles" which sounded vaguely like something out of Revolver and Rubber Soul, and went on and on in interviews about how he brought "The Beatles" back to their glory days. And all this while John Lennon was still alive. That's pretty much what Gilmour did. The fact that he had to nerve to call that "Pink Floyd" bugs the shit out of me.
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True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)
by charlie brown jr. inlistening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.
the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.
lmao!!!.
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Roger Waters isn't the type of person who will collaborate on another person's album like David is. Even Roger admits that he's not the musician that David can claim to be. However, Roger was the creative spark for all of the Floyd's best work. He wrote all lyrics from Dark Side to Final Cut. In addition to that, look at the songwriting credits on the individual songs. On Dark Side, Roger is solely credited on Money, Brain Damage, and Eclipse, co-credited with Rick Wright on Us and Them, and with everyone else on Breathe and Time. While Roger is at very least co-credited with songwriting on virtually every song Dark Side to Final Cut, David can lay claim to co-writing credits only on the following songs:
- Breathe (with Roger and Rick)
- On The Run (with Roger)
- Time (with everyone)
- Any Colour You Like (with Nick and Rick)
- Shine On You Crazy Diamond (with Rick and Roger)
- Wish You Were Here (with Roger)
- Dogs (with Roger)
- Young Lust (with Roger)
- Comfortably Numb (with Roger)
- Run Like Hell (with Roger)
Everything else is Roger alone.
The Division Bell was indeed better than Momentary Lapse, but that was due in no small part to the fact that David let his wife write the lyrics while it allowed him to focus on the music. TDB is listenable and radio friendly, but it didn't age too well. I can't think of any song on either album that I just have to have on my MP3 player. It remains as a product of the mid-Nineties, and not much else. I respect David Gilmour and his contributions as a guitarist, but for most of the Floyd's glory years, he was only an occasional songwriter.
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The Real Purpose of Shunning Holidays
by metatron inthe watchtower endlessly prates on about pagan traditions in popular holidays - while the bible itself is loaded with subtle pagan religious ideas - such as wicked spirits being cast "into tartarus" (a pagan greek place in which the rebels against zeus got imprisoned) or "sacred secret" - a term the apostle paul likes that was adopted from pagan 'mystery' religions.. then we can throw in the reference to being divinely 'called christians' in acts - which uses a pagan term that refers to demonic oracles of the day.. of course, the watchtower has no objection to accumulating millions of pieces of paper that feature occult symbols (any dollar bill!).
in recent years, for good measure, they have added birthdays and thanksgiving to the official banned list, despite the sketchiest justification for doing so.
if birthdays are wrong simply because they figure in two negative accounts, then it makes much more sense to ban dogs as pets because of all the negativity in the bible about them!.
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I completely agree that the whole anti-holiday and anti-birthday rhetoric came at the behest of one man - Joseph Franklin Rutherford. Rutherford didn't want his people distracted in any way from hitting the streets and preaching. This was a man who actually instituted quotas for field service hours and implied that these orders came down from the Almighty. I think that was his initial reason to do so, and that these rules were perpetuated throughout the years as a method of isolating Witnesses from their non-believing families. Witness lives became austere, and were focused around the weekly meetings and field service. Meanwhile, the Judge himself lived a life of leisure out at Beth Sarim and at all other residences the Society kept for him. Every now and then he'd give a talk at the conventions where he vented against the clergy. I just find it offensive that such a man had a huge influence on millions of lives - a life he certainly was not willing to live himself.
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What's The Worst Thing An Elder or Elders Did To You?
by minimus inwas there anything truly terrible??
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When I was in my early teens, an elder came up to me after the meeting and informed me that he had started what was something like a "pioneer training class" for the youth. What he was doing was getting verbal commitments from young people to dedicate their three months of school summer vacation to putting in regular pioneer hours. He would take personal interest in the group, encourage them, and help instruct them in door-to-door ministry. The question wasn't really a question at all, as was so many other things in JW life. There was no real choice. You could either do it voluntarily, or be guilt-tripped into doing it involuntarily. I wanted no part of this as I already has plans during summer to stay at one of my cousin's house out in the countryside and help on the farm. When I immediately told him no, he seemed to be taken aback and didn't expect such a quick and negative response. This was immediatley reported to my dad, which as always, inflamed the situation even more. My plans for the summer were overruled, and I had to join this BS arrangement. The fact that I didn't want to did not matter to anyone. So I very reluctantly started walking to the Hall every morning (my house was only two blocks away) and reported for duty. A few of my friends and young adults were also "enrolled", so I always made arrangements to join them in service. These were the guys who would go on "Not-At-Homes", Return Visits, laundry mats, and basically everything that required the least amount of time at the door. Soon word was circulated that I was "goofing off" during service, and so this particular elder took me directly under his wing. I was always assigned to his group or one of the pioneers. He made me feel his wrath at my reluctance to join the group in the first place. We always did straight territory, and he made me talk at every door. We had no coffee breaks, and often we'd be out until late afternoon. I never liked field service before, but this made me really despise it. Once school was over, he called me and my father into the back room. He stated his belief that I was very weak spiritually and that just because I was back in school, I should keep at it hard. That pretty much took away all my weekends for the next few months.
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True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)
by charlie brown jr. inlistening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.
the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.
lmao!!!.
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I feel sorry for anyone who thinks Pink Floyd is Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell. Like Roger said, all gravy and no meat. Both are a forced and hideous attempt at combining typically Floyd keyboard and guitar riffs with an 80's style beat, and putting meaningless lyrics and vocals on top of them. David Gilmour is a talented guitarist, and a half way decent singer, but he definitely can't carry an album. I listened to his "On An Island", and it sounded like a movie soundtrack to a movie that doesn't exist. I was driving at the time and nearly fell asleep. The real Pink Floyd is the holy Quadrilogy of Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and The Wall. The Final Cut was a Waters solo album in all but name. Whereas I can pick up any of those albums and put them on regardless of my mood, I haven't listened to the Division Bell or Momentary Lapse since they were first released. It's a shame that David found himself forced to carry on the Floyd name in order to provide for a cozy retirement. He wasn't getting much of songwriter's royalties as Roger was, and realized that if he released a couple more albums under the Pink Floyd name with the huge tours that followed (and two completely pointless live albums and DVDs), he'd be mega-rich. I wish there was a way that David could have set himself up financially and not have to put the fans through nearly ten years of albums and tours which were completely forgettable. Even the tours he put on had no imagination or creative passion. He was just reusing and expanding on Roger's ideas for the tours. I went to Pink Floyd's Division Bell tour and I got what I expected. Later when I went to Roger's "In The Flesh" tour, I came out pleasantly surprised. The part on "Dogs" when he plays cards with the other guitarists and the back up singers during the instrumental break was a stroke of genius.